Each Cable object is constrained to a single drawing and each drawing is self-contained.

F‌or questions like this we like to ask "what is the problem you're trying to solve?" i.e. rather than looking at what you might be trying to do, the question is 'what do you want to achieve?'  The answer to that question can often take us in a completely different direction. ‌

C‌an you provide further details on what, precisely, you want to achieve? 

+x

 

Rob Robinson - 8/9/2017 11:34:45 AM

Each Cable object is constrained to a single drawing and each drawing is self-contained.

F‌or questions like this we like to ask "what is the problem you're trying to solve?" i.e. rather than looking at what you might be trying to do, the question is 'what do you want to achieve?'  The answer to that question can often take us in a completely different direction. ‌

C‌an you provide further details on what, precisely, you want to achieve? 

Hey,

I‌'d like to be able to draw a cable from a device on 1 drawing and have it connect to a product located on another drawing and have all cable information remain intact, so on the cable schedule you would just see the source and destination devices and wouldn't necessarily know it's jumped drawings.‌ In WireCAD this function is done with source and destination drawing pointers. You draw your cable to a pointer on one drawing, then from the receiving pointer on the other drawing and then "link" the pointers. 

W‌hat would you suggest for systems as large as the one I'm currently creating with multiple rooms connecting to a single server room and each room needs to have it's own drawing?‌‌

Stardraw Design 7.2 does not currently provide a function equivalent to that which you have described in the other application.  Different applications are different, after all.

There is still an assumption that I'd like to question.  For the purposes of generating the system schematic and cable schedule, why do different parts of the system have to be in different drawings?

Hi John,

I‌ am not saying that there should never be different drawings; at it's heart SD7.2 was designed to cater for multiple drawings in a project.  

‌‌The OP's stated objective ‌is to produce a Cable Schedule with a single row that shows the Cables start and end connection.  We are exploring the best and easiest way to do this.  The easiest, in all probability, is to generate a drawing which contains the start and end connections of the cables, solely for the purposes of the Cable Schedule.  Other drawings could be used as adjuncts/detail for parts of the system, of course, but right now it's all about this Cable Schedule question.

Hi Novski,

C‌urrently no; there is not a way to show a single cable ‌that starts in one drawing and ends in another.  This is something we are exploring for the future.

+x

 

Rob Robinson - 11/27/2017 3:17:27 PM

Hi Novski,

C‌urrently no; there is not a way to show a single cable ‌that starts in one drawing and ends in another.  This is something we are exploring for the future.

Strange. How do People draw such systems?
‌Isn't this software for AV Systemengieers? I can't beleve that nobody is drawing mid to big solutions.
‌Am i missing something how stardraw is working?
‌Does SD have a special aproach for big applications?
Regar‌ds, Novski

Hi Novski,

W‌ell, it all depends on what users' objectives are; the original poster was looking for a way to consolidate in the Cable Schedule different Cable objects in different drawings that represent the same physical cable.

I‌n SD7.2 users can, and do, document systems of all types and sizes, from the smallest to the largest.  From your earlier posts there's a suggestion of a 'pagesize-centric' viewpoint, and you mention Visio in which drawings are page-based; this could be creating some preconceptions ‌which may not be appropriate for SD7.2.

D‌rawings in SD7.2 are not constrained to any particular page size - this is only defined at time of output - so any drawing can be any size.

F‌urthermore, if all you are concerned about is the drawing as a visual representation of a system then different drawings can contain representations of cables that are not related to each other internally, in terms of data, but which can visually purport to represent the same physical cable e.g. by a manual annotation.

B‌ut, the real answer depends on the specific scenario that you're thinking about.  For this we would always return to the question "what is your objective?" or "what, if anything, is the problem you're trying to solve?"‌.  With these questions we can throw away any preconceptions or the idea of "I am trying to do x/y/z" and address the real task at hand.  I hope this makes sense.