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Hi Rob,

As I was going through some of the features, I discover that my out of the box software didn't feature the cost price, sale price as a default attribute for the product. This seemed weird as in the report tab of the dashboard their are plenty of reports "playing" with the attribute. Is that normal?

So, I felt the need to play the video about attributes again.

In the first part of it, you are discribing how we can add attributes from the tool / personalisation / setting window.

So I did, updated the attribute value enter a value for both prices and played with the reports. All worked fine.

Then I resumed the video where you are talking about updating the data base with price value once for all.

This starts in tool / personalisation / Product attributes.

Strangely there I see the cost price and the sale price appearing and because of a capital letter that is there and not in in the attribute added by me in the setting, I know for sure that they are likely not the consequences of what I did before.

Anyway, I go on, and open the excell sheet. There as mentionned in the video, I discover one tab for each of the manufacturer included in my library.

The limit of 255 tabs in Excell might appear as an explanation of the new system you implemented for the libraries, anyway off topic.

So I entered a price in there, updated my attribute and it is working perfectely as well.

Now back to the dashboard in the products tab. The table there doesn't show a colomn with sale an cost price but it does on your video. Is that a problem with me?

Another question, imagine the following scenario, I'm using a lot of blank panel for instance that are not comming from any of the manufacturers available from the library. I would use a blank panel comming out of the generics symbols.

Imagine now that I want to improve the quality of the product reports to get a purchase list that features the manufacturer name and ref.

I see two way to do that:

1 create a UDP from the generic blank panel and introduce there manufacturer name, reference, etc and then update other atributes from the excell sheet.
The down side of this is that I would have to add hundreds of products in the UDP which is seriously time consuming.

2 I could go into tool / personalisation / Product attributes and add the manufacturer name and reference as new editable attribut for all the parts. This would obviously be completely redundant for all the product as that information is already included in the data base, except for the generics.

What is your view on that?

A last question, what is happening to the values (prices) you entered into the table when you offload a library because you reached the end of your manufacturer allowance and you need to add another one?

Thanks

Christian

Christian Delvaux

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Rob Robinson
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Hi Chris,

The 'rogue' attributes are being added to your products because you have defined them as default Product Attributes in Tools | Personalization | Settings. Remove them here and they will not be added to any new products that you introduce into your project.

Unfortunately there is currently no easy way to remove Attribute placeholders from the products in this project: that someone would want to delete the attributes that they had chosen to add (even, perhaps, by mistake) is not an eventuality that we had expected, but these things only come to light with extensive use in the field. Now we know about it we could add it to the wishlist, although you'll probably not need it in the future!

So, for now you can either:

1. Delete the products from your project and re-insert them, or

2. Ignore the 'rogue' attributes.

Once you have deleted the attributes from Settings they won't impact on any future products or projects.

Kind regards,
Rob Robinson
Stardraw.com
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Hi Chris,

I understand.

Please add 'Cost Price' and 'Sale Price' (exactly as they appear in the Product Attributes dialog) to the Settings dialog. This will ensure that the placeholders are created even if values have not been entered in the Product Attributes spreadsheet.

Then, if you do add values to the spreadsheet, these will be used as you add new products. All should be well!

We're taking steps to ensure that the default attribute settings support the expected functionality.

Apologies for the confusion this caused, but thanks for helping us get to the bottom of it.

Kind regards,
Rob Robinson
Stardraw.com
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