By sound_man - 2/21/2014 4:07:39 AM
How do I notate a cable going to another page? and then notate it coming in on the secondary page?
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By Rob Robinson - 2/21/2014 1:43:20 PM
There is no set procedure or special method for this - you can use any form of annotation that suits your purpose.
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By bpstim - 2/25/2016 9:11:16 PM
How do we keep the one cable that bridges the two drawings from showing up as two cables in the reports?
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By David Snipp - 2/26/2016 4:55:33 PM
As Rob stated, "There is no set procedure or special method for this - you can use any form of annotation that suits your purpose."
One way would be to annotate your cables with attributes or Labels and then use the power of Excel to filter out duplicate data.
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By bpstim - 2/29/2016 9:31:00 PM
One way that would suit my purposes is to use the expensive "industry specific software" for "AV professionals" that I just purchased. I don't think that multi-page drawings and multi-conductor cables (http://forums.stardraw.com/Topic16961.aspx) are anything new to the AV industry. This is the kind of industry-specific functionality that I would expect Stardraw to have to differentiate it from something more general purpose, like Visio. Even Visio could be programmed, via the API, to provide specific functionality like this.
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By Rob Robinson - 3/1/2016 9:47:06 PM
Hi Tim,
Thanks for your feedback - we do take on board all such comments and they form the basis for the ongoing evolution of our development wishlist and the addition of new features into Stardraw Design 7.
Although we cannot comment on release dates of new features in advance, all suggestions, observations and requests made by users in the field are assessed for development, bearing in mind, of course, technical, commercial and usability considerations; we cannot add everything, requested by everybody, immediately, and even though some might think a feature is easy or obvious, often it is not and it may have much wider implications than are immediately apparent to the outside observer.
Rest assured, though, that your comments are noted and we appreciate constructive criticism at all times.
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By Rob Robinson - 9/2/2018 6:09:34 PM
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By Ray - 9/7/2018 7:28:04 PM
Rob/David,
Would it be possible to add a feature where we could click on a given feather and have Stardraw highlight every feather with the matching FeatherID on any drawing/tab in the project?
Sure would help me. If you can do that, I'll ask for "Feather count" later... 
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By Rob Robinson - 9/10/2018 6:49:22 AM
Hi Ray,
Thanks for your request. There may be some challenges with this because highlighting other objects would only be effective if those objects were currently visible which may not be the case if you're zoomed in on part of a drawing or if the paired feather is in a different drawing tab.
Perhaps if you can describe the problem you need to solve or your final objective we could figure out the best way to achieve what you need. Also it's important to note that any feather should only have one paired ID - a single 'twin' - so is the functionality designed to find the twin, or is part of the issue to find invalid twins, i.e. third, fourth, fifth etc feathers that all have the same ID, which shouldn't really happen?
So, if you can furnish some background on the problem/objective we could look into this further.
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By Ray - 9/10/2018 3:58:20 PM
+xHi Ray, Thanks for your request. There may be some challenges with this because highlighting other objects would only be effective if those objects were currently visible which may not be the case if you're zoomed in on part of a drawing or if the paired feather is in a different drawing tab. Perhaps if you can describe the problem you need to solve or your final objective we could figure out the best way to achieve what you need. Also it's important to note that any feather should only have one paired ID - a single 'twin' - so is the functionality designed to find the twin, or is part of the issue to find invalid twins, i.e. third, fourth, fifth etc feathers that all have the same ID, which shouldn't really happen? So, if you can furnish some background on the problem/objective we could look into this further. "Single twin" huh?  Well.... That narrows things down a bit. 
Even so, it would still be helpful if some "click combination" would take me from viewing a current feather to viewing its twin, regardless of tab location. (Similar method to that used on the Products view where clicking on a green check mark in the right hand columns takes you to the product.)
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By Rob Robinson - 9/10/2018 5:24:12 PM
Hi Ray,
Ok, that helps to clarify and make things more manageable; we'll add this to our list of features under consideration.
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By Tim C - 5/1/2019 2:11:53 PM
Hi Rob,
We have designed a large project involving approx. 120 links between rooms, hence 120 to and from feathers. With this many feathers it becomes very time consuming and frustrating managing almost all aspects of feathers, from creation, to resolving duplicate ID's. Can I therefore put some suggestions forward;
- Auto pair of feathers, i.e. if a 'to' or 'from' feather is created, it immediately creates its opposite partner somewhere else on the page (or with the option to place on a different page) and that automatically has the same ID, with the ability to lock this so that no duplicate ID's can be accidentally created.
- Any change that is then made to either the 'to' or 'from' feather will automatically change its partner. For instance, if I change the Label on the 'to' feather it automatically changes the label on the 'from' feather. This may sound strange but we label both feathers with the same ID number and it doubles the time to make the necessary changes.
- A way of easily finding the other end of a feather as Ray suggested, e.g. by using a 'show me' button which takes you directly to its partner or by clearly highlighting the other end
- Some way of showing where duplicate ID's are located. Again with this many feathers it's time consuming to find where the duplicates are. Maybe with the above suggestions, having a way of locking feathers to one another will prevent the need for this anyway.
Thanks
Tim
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By Rob Robinson - 5/1/2019 6:34:35 PM
Hi Tim,
Thanks for your post - we shall certainly factor your suggestions into planning for ongoing enhancements and improvements to Stardraw Design 7..
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By JWAIII - 5/2/2019 2:22:30 AM
I 100% agree and second all of these requests.
One more feature request for feathers. Auto cable label should label the ends of the “feathered” cable such that the cable ends at the source and destination get the same label automatically (no searching to find the corresponding feather or accidentally creating a different cable number). I find that a cable label at the feather end is not useful.
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By garrett.strudler - 6/18/2019 10:43:00 PM
I'd like to add a couple more thoughts and suggestions for consideration as well (although I'm fairly new to SD7 so take these with a grain of salt):
I may be in the minority, but I don't necessarily want the other end of the feather created when I make the first side. While this might help alleviate the issue of duplicate ID's, it's not convenient when you're working with a device(s) that have multiple I/O that you're making feathers for and want to create all the feathers on one side first before moving to another device/cable to create the other end, especially if that's on another page.
To help keep track of feather ID's I could imagine a system somewhat like (or even using) the "Available Symbols" currently in place, where when one end of a feather is placed in a drawing and given an ID, the matching end shows up immediately as an "Available" asset that can be placed, already with matching ID assigned.
I don't agree that feathers should be forced to have the same label on both sides as was suggested previously. At minimum (especially between pages) they should indicate "From XX" and "To XX" (e.g. "To Pg.3 B"/"From Pg.1 B" or "To Control Room"/"From Stage"). I suppose theoretically, however, you could have a "Linked" checkbox on the feather label properties that would allow customers that want matched labels to do so and be able to modify it from either end.
I will agree being able to see/find duplicate feather ID's would be helpful, as well as knowing what ID's are already in use (some of this can be accomplished by running a cable report, but it would be much better to have this in-app instead of having to run reports to get it; I'm also not sure how the report handles a feather ID that has more than a single to/from associated). I also agree being able to "jump" from one side of a feather to the other side would be pretty handy.
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By Rob Robinson - 6/19/2019 1:55:17 PM
Hi Garrett,
Thanks for adding your thoughts - your feedback is very useful and appreciated.
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