Hi,

I have just downloaded and start to use Stardraw 7 instead of Stardraw AV 2007.

I have directly seen a lot of improvements, but also some things that I miss (or can't find, probably the later...)

1) In Stardraw AV 2007 there is several Cable and connections reports , that list all the cables/connections You have created in a block drawing, where/how do I get this in the new version ?

2) In the old version, the Edit Attributes was used to set any attribute in the drawing, the new cable labels is an improvement in many ways, but how do You set other attributes if you have a large drawing with several houndred cables ?

3) There is a help button (?) in the new version, but nothing seems to happen ?

4) In the product description there is followin text: "Linkage: make changes in one drawing or view and changes automatically apply to other drawings and views." What does this mean ?

My basic problem is that in larger installations, I create one huge drawing, containing all products and cables (typically needs to be printed on a A0 or larger to be possible to read), then I need to

divide the drawing into several smaller ones, to be able to print in A3 or A4 size. Is it possible to get several different "views" out from one drawing. Because when I divide the larger drawing in version AV 2007, there is no connection between them, and a change in the system must be updated on several drawings, to get it correct.

With kind regards

Mats

Cyril,

We received your Error Report, thank you.

Can you confirm that you are running the latest version of Stardraw Design 7? What is the Build Version that appears in the Help->About dialog?

Can you try creating a new project, adding a new Block Schematic drawing, drawing a cable and then choosing Export Cable Schedule?

Does this work? How about connecting the cable to 2 block schematic symbols?

If this does work, do you know what is different between the drawing that doesn't work and this one? How was the other drawing created?

David Snipp
Stardraw.com Ltd

Can you confirm that you are running the latest version of Stardraw Design 7? What is the Build Version that appears in the Help->About dialog?

Build 12/31/2011. There are no program updates currently available.


Can you try creating a new project, adding a new Block Schematic drawing, drawing a cable and then choosing Export Cable Schedule?

I tried this with another drawing created with SD7 with the same result. The error report has been sent to you.

Does this work? How about connecting the cable to 2 block schematic symbols?

Of course the cables are connected to symbols!

If this does work, do you know what is different between the drawing that doesn't work and this one? How was the other drawing created?
It does not work with two drawings created with SD7.

Cyril,

After speaking on the phone with you today, we determined that Stardraw Design 7 does indeed work when you create a new project, add a Block Schematic Drawing, draw a cable and then export a Cable Schedule. It also works when you add products to the drawing, connect them up and export a cable schedule.

Indeed, it turns out that the problem you are seeing was limited to 2 specific drawings which you kindly emailed to me.

Upon closer examination of these files, the problem seem to be related to a strange block schematic symbol that looks as though it had originated as a symbol, but was somehow just a group of entities that looked like a symbol but didn't relate to any product. As the cable schedule assumed that what it was connected to was a product, it failed when it found it wasn't connected to a product at all.

We've now published an update to Stardraw Design 7 that deals with this exceptional case. Of course, it can't show you in the cable schedule what product the cable is connected to as it is not connected to any product, but at least it successfully saves exports all other cables.

Please do let us know if you find any other problems.

David Snipp
Stardraw.com Ltd

David,

Thanks for your call last night & update and your e-mail this morning. The Cable Schedule Export works now. I found out what the problem was. I had overlaid descriptive text (for the install team) on a Custom Panel and grouped it to keep them together. It seems that when we group text with a product symbol, SD7 no longer recognizes it as a Product Symbol. It worked like a charm as soon as I removed the Grouping. I use text overlays all the time to make it easy for the Install team. Could SD7 be modified to recognise a Product Symbol even when it is grouped with Text?

Cyril Moraes

Cyril,

The problem with grouping is that you could group any type of entity together, including other products. You could even create a group of products that are made up of other groups of products.

What I recommend you do is use the unlock tool to modify the existing text in a symbol once it is on your drawing. This way, you are not destroying or affecting the logical structure of the symbol that is used to represent the product.

David Snipp
Stardraw.com Ltd