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Product attributes (fix by product and change by ID)

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By Micha B - 11/10/2017 1:54:36 PM

I am a bit confused regarding the product attributes. Saw again the video (personalisation) , but this is version 7 and i think some changes applies in 7.2
As i understand there are attributes by product that do no change (price/width/weight maybe installation time etc), while some do/can change in the drawing (location, label, room etc)
w‌e do have product attibutes under tools /personalisation 

a‌nd under settings again product attributes (it seems they differ)
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a‌nd finalaly in the product itself they figures (all).

i‌ think i would prefer to see the "fix" attributes with a separator".
Anyway - i don't understand where you put the "fixed one" / where you setup the data for them.
And where you setup the fields that change.
T‌hank U
By Micha B - 11/11/2017 10:00:09 PM

Micha B - 11/10/2017 1:54:36 PM
I am a bit confused regarding the product attributes. Saw again the video (personalisation) , but this is version 7 and i think some changes applies in 7.2
As i understand there are attributes by product that do no change (price/width/weight maybe installation time etc), while some do/can change in the drawing (location, label, room etc)
w‌e do have product attibutes under tools /personalisation 

a‌nd under settings again product attributes (it seems they differ)
‌‌

a‌nd finalaly in the product itself they figures (all).

i‌ think i would prefer to see the "fix" attributes with a separator".
Anyway - i don't understand where you put the "fixed one" / where you setup the data for them.
And where you setup the fields that change.
T‌hank U

ok...
i‌ did a few tests and found the following:
in my first picture - Product attribute are the fields that do not change per product (Project base) (like price, consumption etc). These fields are exported in the products attribute and can be managed there (XL)
i‌n the "settings" tab are the field that do change per item (location/room etc), these are not exported in the product attribute

P‌ersonally i think it will be better to have it more clear even in teh product attribute window (at the moment the terminology is the same for both)‌
I‌ try to change the order of the fields (in the personalization). There it changes but not in the product attribute window. maybe i do something wrong/have to restart the sw ?

i‌ found also that the UDP (in the exported product attributes) - in case they have the same manufacturer - are stored in the same XL sheet Smile
By Rob Robinson - 11/12/2017 5:59:07 PM

Hi Micha,

Well, both 'flavors' of Attribute are Product Attributes, but as you say, one has values that are product-specific, i.e. they don't usually change for that product, like 'Price', and the other is project-specific; the values will usually be different for the same product e.g. 'Room'.  For the Project-specific attributes these are added as Placeholders, i.e. an empty space to add a value, by the application; it's an application-level action.  But for the product-specific values you want somewhere to add your default values (like 'Price') so this is why these Attributes are stored in the excel spreadsheet, and why the project-specific ones are not.  It doesn't make sense to add cells to the spreadsheet if it doesn't make sense to enter values in those cells.

‌‌The display of Attributes in the Properties Grid is sorted alphabetically, so you cannot change the order of display, unless you do so in the name e.g. "01 - Price", "02 - Cost".

P‌utting library products and UDPs that have the same manufacturer into the same tab in the Product Attributes spreadsheet ‌is by design and makes more sense, in our opinion, that having a different tab just because the product happens to be a UDP.

I‌ hope this helps to clarify things.‌